If we don’t have purpose, if we’re not teaching young people what the purpose of school is, then they will think of school and college as this very abstract 10th planet kind of idea.

I know there’s maybe a 10th planet out there, but I have never really learned about it. And it’s such an abstract concept sometimes. So college becomes very abstract for young people oftentimes.

And so it’s a matter of providing concrete opportunities, persistent care, persistent programming that teaches them. And, unfortunately, sometimes, young people that come from poverty don’t have those parents that are examples that have gone to a four-year university, let’s say.

And so, because of that, I think it’s our obligation as a society to provide role models that have gone to four-year universities who can teach a more concrete example of what it means to go to college.